Curse

King's Spectre · Sep 12, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

I've enjoyed all the games so far and I'm sure I'll enjoy Nightfall. I DO, however, look forward to a more Northern European themed version sooner or later. Something like a gritter un-nuked pre ascalon.

Silver_Fang · Sep 13, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by prodigy ming

I was told that some Chinese mistake their own hanfu as kimono.

Hmm, Hanfu and Kimono have lots of similarity, esp the male one. Because Kimono is influrence by Hanfu.

Demesis · Sep 13, 2006, 12:00 PM // 12:00

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

To each their own. I like some from both. But with Factions you can select the style of clothes to use with any function.

There is nothing really anime or ninja about Factions though.

THIS IS WHAT I LIKE ABOUT FACTIONS. Its not Asian. There is no such thing as Asian style anyway. But there is some blend of different elements from different Asian cultures and I think that's cool. Its fantasy Asian. I don't really like Western-Eastern blend (especially food), but the buildings seem to take and mix from different countries. Kaineng really reminds me of the Old Walled City of Hong Kong, only send back in time 500 years. Not that I have been there (I think it was torn down during the 80s), but I have walked all around the Kowloon area and have a feel for what it must have been like. All layer on layer (built by different contractors) of crappy appartments lit with neon lit rooms and plumbing pipes on the outside of the building. And Shing Jea sort of looks like Hokaido, but with a little more Chinese influence. To me anyway.

Does Lord of the Rings have cultural discrepancies? No...its fantasy, but fantasy flavored with mythology from Northern Europe. Factions is fantasy too...but with a little Asian flavor. Its like going to a "good" Chinese food restaurant in the US and ordering Beef and Broccoli. The dish comes out and it seems sort of Chinese. And its tastes good I guess. But of course, you can't get Beef and Broccoli in China! (at least, I never had it here)

Do people really think "Asians" dress like that? No way. No one is that stupid. That's like asking if people dress like Legola or Aragon. Except at Society for Creative Anachronism meetings they do.

Amazing, you appear to have a masters degree in Asian culture. You're basically repeating the point I was trying to put across. I don't really see what you're trying to disagree with if you're putting the exact same points as I am in my post. :/

birdfoot · Sep 14, 2006, 01:20 PM // 13:20

I think Factions being Asian-style would be more correctly referred to as being Oriental-style. That is because both "Asian" and "Oriental" are both used interchangeably in modern times out of convenience.

It is difficult to strike a relationship between 'Asian-style' (if I refer to that word as related to Asia) and Factions environment. However, if you would refer to the olden times of China, Korea and Japan (i.e. Oriental), you may strike a relationship there. The environment (including structures) looks to me like it's been influenced/inspired by a mix of the 3. Btw, I happen to be a Straits-born Chinese (i.e. I'm Asian) and I can tell you that 'Asian' don't neccessarily only refer to Chinese (or you may think of it as the yellow-skinned); it refers to people living in that region. That also includes Malays, Indians, etc. As such, it's more appropriate to use the word "Oriental-themed" to refer to Factions.

Solar_Takfar · Sep 14, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

It's clear that Anet borrowed some inspiration from asian culture (not just oriental; the ritualists look very much indian to me) to build Cantha on, but I'm glad they left the commonplace! They have great original ideas (the multi-layered city, the petrified forest and - first and foremost - the beautiful and inspired jade sea), and it's only right of them to include them along with more familiar, real-world aspects.

birdfoot · Sep 15, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10

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Originally Posted by Solar_Takfar

It's clear that Anet borrowed some inspiration from asian culture (not just oriental; the ritualists look very much indian to me) to build Cantha on, but I'm glad they left the commonplace! They have great original ideas (the multi-layered city, the petrified forest and - first and foremost - the beautiful and inspired jade sea), and it's only right of them to include them along with more familiar, real-world aspects.

Well, I'm not sure if I can agree with you on the Ritualists-Indian thingy; unless I think of them as over-sized turbans. :P I'm sure not entirely everything in-game is influenced by Oriental culture; and I believe the character designs are something that were conceived by the designers without that influence, a touch of their own. Honestly, Factions remind me more of ancient Korea (than China or Japan) all the way until you see the Kurzicks and Luxons. From that point onwards, I can't really tell where ANet gets its inspiration from. IMO, cohesiveness seems to break up from there. Gotta love that multi-layered city you mentioned!

Just to side track, do you guys know that there are alot of different tribes in China and maybe that helped inspired Luxon designs.

EDIT: I was watching some of the promo videos at the Taiwan GW site and it actually did mentioned "Oriental" in its introduction of Factions. The word "东方" (in Chinese simplified form) refers to Oriental and not Asia. Places where you can find Oriental culture are such as Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, Korea and Japan (the common point is that all these places and their culture are related to China). For simplicity, just try to think of it this way: the Orientals are the folks that used chopsticks. :P

Demesis · Sep 15, 2006, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by birdfoot

Well, I'm not sure if I can agree with you on the Ritualists-Indian thingy; unless I think of them as over-sized turbans. :P I'm sure not entirely everything in-game is influenced by Oriental culture; and I believe the character designs are something that were conceived by the designers without that influence, a touch of their own. Honestly, Factions remind me more of ancient Korea (than China or Japan) all the way until you see the Kurzicks and Luxons. From that point onwards, I can't really tell where ANet gets its inspiration from. IMO, cohesiveness seems to break up from there. Gotta love that multi-layered city you mentioned!

Just to side track, do you guys know that there are alot of different tribes in China and maybe that helped inspired Luxon designs.

You have got to be KIDDING if you think Chinese wear anything like the Luxons.

But then again you also happen to think that all Indians wear turbans.

birdfoot · Sep 15, 2006, 10:43 AM // 10:43

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Originally Posted by Demesis

You have got to be KIDDING if you think Chinese wear anything like the Luxons.

But then again you also happen to think that all Indians wear turbans.

Lol, don't really understand where you got your points. Maybe you should read my reply more carefully.

Anyway, of cos Luxons don't wear anything close to traditional Chinese. However, do look at my point on Luxon designs; I suggested that it may be inspired by the tribes that exists in China (there are more than 50 btw). I really wonder if you even realize that many of them still exists even to date.

EDIT: I realized I was being rude seeing that my first post coming after yours might have led to a misunderstanding. The first post wasn't a reply to yours but simply to everyone reading it; being 'you' referring to everyone reading my post. I re-read the posts on the first page and noticed that you are Asian too (which is where I figured saying that I'm Asian too might have led you to think my posts were directed at you if you have felt that way). Like I have said, I feel the proper word to be used instead of "Asian-influenced" is "Oriental-influenced", or at least I feel it is true for Factions all the way until you see Kurzicks and Luxons. Chill mate.

Demesis · Sep 15, 2006, 12:35 PM // 12:35

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Originally Posted by birdfoot

Lol, don't really understand where you got your points. Maybe you should read my reply more carefully.

Anyway, of cos Luxons don't wear anything close to traditional Chinese. However, do look at my point on Luxon designs; I suggested that it may be inspired by the tribes that exists in China (there are more than 50 btw). I really wonder if you even realize that many of them still exists even to date.

EDIT: I realized I was being rude seeing that my first post coming after yours might have led to a misunderstanding. The first post wasn't a reply to yours but simply to everyone reading it; being 'you' referring to everyone reading my post. I re-read the posts on the first page and noticed that you are Asian too (which is where I figured saying that I'm Asian too might have led you to think my posts were directed at you if you have felt that way). Like I have said, I feel the proper word to be used instead of "Asian-influenced" is "Oriental-influenced", or at least I feel it is true for Factions all the way until you see Kurzicks and Luxons. Chill mate.

I guess I should... Sorry bout that.

Sometimes I get kinda sick having to correct other people who happen to be very ignorant about what's outside their corner of the world. I've mistaken you as one of them.

Shadow of Light · Sep 15, 2006, 02:09 PM // 14:09

If it was Asian based, you'd be able to give your Canthan characters black hair. :x

EPO Bot · Sep 15, 2006, 02:18 PM // 14:18

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9...eatwavewp8.png

I'm pretty shure this painting was somehow an influence...